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Re: State Super-DMCA Too True

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Sprunk)
Mon Mar 31 15:54:25 2003

From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org>
To: "Jack Bates" <jbates@brightok.net>,
	"Peter Galbavy" <peter.galbavy@knowtion.net>
Cc: "Mike Lyon" <mlyon@fitzharris.com>,
	"Simon Lyall" <simon.lyall@ihug.co.nz>,
	"Tony Rall" <trall@almaden.ibm.com>,
	"North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:50:50 -0600
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Thus spake "Jack Bates" <jbates@brightok.net>
> Granted, 99% of the oversell problem with home users has now
> become piracy. It's no longer the one or two power users, but
> everyone and their dog that is computer illiterate but can still install
> p2p software or at least use it if their friend installs it for them.

Some ISPs (such as mine) have fixed this by enforcing 'no p2p' clauses in
their AUP.  Specifically, p2p apps share content to the rest of the Net,
which means it is a server -- and running servers is an AUP violation of
nearly every 'residential' service agreement I've seen.  Others add explicit
prohibitions for p2p apps in the AUP in case a user disables serving
content.

A few get sneakier, rate-limiting customers below the speed they
purchased if they become a nuisance.  After all, the marketing material says
you get "up to 1.5Mb/s", and 128kb/s meets that definition legally if not
ethically.

S

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