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RE: [OT: FW: About your using mailer]

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Damm)
Fri Mar 28 14:41:53 2003

From: Mike Damm <MikeD@irwinresearch.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:36:10 -0800
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


As I figured.

Here was my official reply I sent to him:
"RFC-2822 is a Proposed Standard according to the Official Internet Protocol
Standards. We are completely compliant with RFC822, which is the current
standard for MAIL. If your software in unable to handle older standards, it
is suggested that you upgrade.

In regards to what mail platform we are using, we do run Microsoft Exchange
5.5. If you would like us to upgrade, I can forward you bank details so you
can wire us $45,000 - the cost of switching to another product. Until then,
please discontinue these unsolicited memos, for the public good."

---
Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development
V: 509.457.5080 x298 F: 509.577.0301 E: miked@irwinresearch.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Smith [mailto:joshua.ej.smith@usa.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:01 AM
To: Mike Damm; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: [OT: FW: About your using mailer]

i got one too - i was going to ask if anyone else minded that my
mua was fully rfc 2822 compliant (before telling usa.net that they
have to rewrite their webmail app)...

i like how the examples cited are crap-html/mime oriented (msn, 
exchange, and aol?)

Mike Damm <MikeD@irwinresearch.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Is anyone else getting this junk regarding the list? And can we put a stop
> to it?
> 
> Granted in a perfect world everyone runs software throughout the entire
> enterprise that is on the bleeding edge of the latest proposed standards,
> but some of us only have so big of a budget.
> 
> ---
> Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development
> V: 509.457.5080 x298 F: 509.577.0301 E: miked@irwinresearch.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Miyoko Shioda [mailto:wjxv4y@k3.dion.ne.jp] 
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:30 AM
> To: Mike Damm
> Subject: Re: About your using mailer
> 
> 
> dear Mike Damm,
> 
> Sorry, I am talking about NANOG mailing list.
> Please please change your MUA in mainling list...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:28:17 -0800
> Mike Damm <MikeD@irwinresearch.com> wrote:
> 
> > What mailing list are you talking about?
> > 
> > ---
> > Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development
> > V: 509.457.5080 x298 F: 509.577.0301 E: miked@irwinresearch.com
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Miyoko Shioda [mailto:wjxv4y@k3.dion.ne.jp] 
> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:16 PM
> > To: MikeD@irwinresearch.com
> > Subject: About your using mailer
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > I read your messages in mailing list.
> > 
> > Your using mailer(MUA) does not seems to support In-Reply-To nor
> References
> > field. These field is defined in RFC-2822.
> > If these field does not be outputted when you reply, tree construction
> > will be break every time you post the messages to mailing list.
> > It is inconvenient for the others.
> > 
> > Please please change your mailer for the public good,
> > at least when you post to mailing list.
> > 
> > Today almost mailers support these field(at least In-Reply-To)
> > except for the following mailers.
> > 
> > MSN hotmail
> > Exchange Server <= 2000 (Exchange Server 2003 will support In-Reply-To.)
> > Lotus Notes < 6.0
> > MIME-Tools
> > AOL mailer
> > dtmail
> > Novell GroupWise
> > foxmail
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> > --
> > Miyoko Shioda
> > wjxv4y@k3.dion.ne.jp
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Miyoko Shioda <wjxv4y@k3.dion.ne.jp>
> 



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