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gender and nanog

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Wed Mar 12 20:53:29 2003

From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:48:37 -0500
To: JC Dill <nanog@vo.cnchost.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> It is offensive to many people (both male and female) when someone
> automatically assumes that an "unknown" person is male.

though not offended, it does tell me a lot about the person making
the assumption.  and it ain't positive.

but that nanog is yet another male dominated technical culture
(yamdtc) should surprise no one here.  on the other hand, the level
of immature rudeness exhibited (remember when abha posted about the
geekgirls list?) can be *extremely* embarrassing, and some folk can
insist on making utter asses of themselves.

but, sad to say, none of this should surprise women.  not to say
that women and men should not stand up against it when it occurs.

we now return you to small operators trying to convince other small
operators how they should run the route filters in their shops.
imiho, if it is not automated by protocol, banana eaters will screw
it up for sure.  so, again imiho, this topic is about as likely to
make progress as serious gender equity in my lifetime <sigh>.

randy


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