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RE: scope of the 69/8 problem

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cutler, James R)
Mon Mar 10 18:59:13 2003

From: "Cutler, James R" <james.cutler@eds.com>
To: "'E.B. Dreger'" <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>,
	nanog@merit.edu
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:58:29 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


RE:  "If the roots and gTLDs are truly unwilling to help..."

The cost of installing entirely new root hints files on every
Internet-attached name server around the world is ridiculously large.  It
has nothing to do with willing.

Perhaps, if the problem were defined in proper terms, and a solution
involving moving, for example, .net or .org to the blackballed space were
made to the registry/DNS owners, a discussion of real possible events could
ensue.  

In the meantime, most of the discussion in this thread is wasted time and
going to the wrong targets.

-
James R. Cutler,  EDS
800 Tower Drive, Troy, MI 48098
1 248 265 7514
james.cutler@eds.com


-----Original Message-----
From: E.B. Dreger [mailto:eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net] 
Sent: 2003-03-10, Monday 6:23 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: scope of the 69/8 problem



FS> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:41:56 -0500
FS> From: Frank Scalzo


FS> Moving all root-servers WOULD fix the problem. Although I doubt 
FS> anyone is really going to be willing to make the news by causing 
FS> that much of an outage.

I'm eager to see stats indicating how large the problem is.  If the problem
is this severe, it seems all the more wrong to let innocent third parties
suffer due to what IP space was bestowed upon them.

If the roots and gTLDs are truly unwilling to help, and a handful of
entities can't cooperate, I have serious concerns why they have been handed
responsibility for such a critical piece of infrastructure.  I'd expect
"it's too hard to be a good netizen" whining on other lists... but NANOG?
Roots and TLDs?

Perhaps this is an omen of the Internet yet to come.  Oh joy.


Eddy
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