[56357] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: spamcop.net?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (chuck goolsbee)
Tue Mar 4 15:04:05 2003
In-Reply-To: <003701c2e282$fb58c580$93b58742@ssprunk>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:53:39 -0800
To: nanog@merit.edu
From: chuck goolsbee <chucklist@forest.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
>Thus spake "Martin Hannigan" <hannigan@fugawi.net>
>> Not for nothing, but there's so much time wasted with all these
>> diversified spam systems.
>
>Many of these systems have been shown to falsely flag non-spamming sites,
>and the more reliable ones unfortunately don't catch a majority of spammers.
So true. We have a colo client who is a domain name registrar that
(curiously) "parks" expired domains on their servers here...
basically saying "this domain available" (with something of a
"whowas" database showing the last domain holder.) Last I checked
over 500,000 expired domains are parked there.
Anyway, if I had a buck for every time some spammer used one of these
expired domains for a bogus "unsubscribe URL" or "From:" address I
would be able to retire by now. Quite comfortably.
I have thousands of auto-generated complaints from Spamcop, pointing
to these domains as being "spamvertised"... and a /25 seemingly
forever blacklisted by spews due to this 'false flag' situation. Yes,
I have plead my case on news.admin.net-abuse.email ... but as we all
know due process is not involved when on trial by spews.
I have a semi-auto reply now to explain the situation to Spamcop
subscribers, but I doubt any of them read it, and I know no attempt
is made to verify or prevent this event from repeating ad infinitum.
--
Chuck Goolsbee V.P. Technical Operations
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