[56291] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Who uses RADB? [was BGP to doom us all]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Hallgren)
Sat Mar 1 16:35:16 2003
From: "Michael Hallgren" <m.hallgren@free.fr>
To: <jlewis@lewis.org>, "Mark Radabaugh" <mark@amplex.net>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 22:33:40 +0100
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303011258040.12785-100000@redhat1.mmaero.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>
> > Who actually uses RADB to build filters other than Verio? While my
> > experience with other providers is limited Verio is the only one (of the
> > ones we have used) who used RADB entries for BGP peers.
>
> AFAIK, Level3 and C&W.
Teleglobe as well (mirror), unless late to me unknown changes.
mh
> I have to keep RADB entries (actually altdb, and
> c&w's own) up to date in order for each of them to accept our routes and
> our BGP customers' routes.
>
> > Overall it wasn't the best solution IMHO for a couple of reasons:
> >
> > - there was nothing to keep us from making bogus entries in the RADB
> > - filters were only updated once a day making changes slow
>
> OTOH, they don't have to pay someone to answer and respond to email sent
> to bgp-admin. They won't accept routes you accidentally leak to
> them. Is
> it secure? Not really. Is it cheap, reliable automation, I suspect so.
>
> > This is not meant as a complaint toward Verio - I'm simply
> trying to decide
> > why we should go to the added expense of entering our routes in
> a RADB. To
> > date I have seen no operational difference between using RADB
> and not using
>
> www.altdb.net. No expense other than the time you spend keeping your
> objects up to date.
>
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