[56218] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: anti-spam vs network abuse
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard Irving)
Fri Feb 28 17:01:37 2003
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:59:58 -0500
From: Richard Irving <rirving@onecall.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
There is NO legal advice in this post.
Jack Bates wrote:(SNIPO)
> > Should we outlaw a potentially beneficial practice due to its abuse by
> > criminals?
> >
> Okay. What happens if you make a mistake and overload one of my devices
> costing my company money.
That is usually a civil issue, not criminal.
(.edu, .mil and .gov can be exceptions to the rule)
[ Older laws protecting the internet, prior to it
being public were allowed to linger.... for just
that effect....FWIW]
And Vixie isn't unique in quoting these California
Statutes....
Does anyone have an actual pointer to these things,
please ? I realize they don't apply to anywhere
but California, but it would make interesting
reading...
> I guarantee you, the law will look favorably on
> damages. That is the problem with probing.
See above, that remains a Civil issue, in most cases.
> Sometimes the probe itself can be
> the damage. Programmers are human. Humans make mistakes.
Sometime probes can provide great benefits
to all involved, as well.
How about the case of the MAPS "test for
email relay" function, available to the public ?
> Programmers are perfect.
Absolutely NOT True... It is just relative to
the rest of the world, we just APPEAR to be perfect.
:*
:P
>
> -Jack