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RE: 69.0.0.0/8 - Please update your filters

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Todd A. Blank)
Wed Feb 26 11:05:37 2003

Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:02:35 -0500
From: "Todd A. Blank" <todd.blank@ipoutlet.com>
To: <manek@ecst.csuchico.edu>, <jlewis@lewis.org>,
	<haesu@towardex.com>
Cc: <stephen@sprunk.org>, <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>,
	<nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


In my original thread, I referred to the "orphaned" equipment in use in
many networks.  I am sure it does not help when organizations have
massive layoffs and the people that put these filters in place or
originally managed the offending devices are no longer employed by the
organization in question.

As once told to me by a prior employer of mine (right before he
eliminated my job):

"After all, once the network is up and running, who needs all those
"extra" people to manage it?" :-)

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: Sameer R. Manek [mailto:manek@ecst.csuchico.edu]=20
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Todd A. Blank; jlewis@lewis.org; haesu@towardex.com
Cc: stephen@sprunk.org; eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net;
nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: 69.0.0.0/8 - Please update your filters

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> Todd A. Blank
>
> We were an early user of the 69/8 address space.  I started the
original
> thread on this subject back in Sept/Oct 2002.  While I am very
disturbed
> (but not surprised) to find out that there are still serious issues
with
> networks acknowledging this allocation, this is one of the best
> suggestions I have seen for doing something to force the issue.
>

Filters once in place are rarely removed, unless the maintainers of the
filters are notified about a specific problem. Even then the filters
never
completely go away. There is always a device or two in everyone's
network
that have been forgotten about, with outdated filters.

Sameer


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