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RE: Voice over IP - performance

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bender, Andrew)
Thu Feb 13 11:56:01 2003

Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:54:34 -0500
From: "Bender, Andrew" <abender@taqua.com>
To: "Mathew Lodge" <Mathew@CPlane.com>,
	"Charles  Youse" <cyouse@register.com>,
	"Bill Woodcock" <woody@pch.net>
Cc: <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Don't forget that the signaling agents that drive the DSPs also =
contribute to load on the host / control CPU.=20

We have found that this can be a very willing consumer of utilization on =
the platforms under discussion... folks with super low hold calls would =
be the ones likely to be challenged by this; particuarly with those =
boxes that still have the 4500-class processor in them.

Regards,
Andrew=20
taqua.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mathew Lodge [mailto:Mathew@CPlane.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:46 PM
> To: Charles Youse; Bill Woodcock
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Voice over IP - performance
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> At 03:23 PM 2/12/2003 -0500, Charles  Youse wrote:
> >I'm assuming in the case of, e.g., a 2650 + dual T-1 PRI=20
> interface can=20
> >actually encode/decode 48 simultaneous g729a voice streams without=20
> >issues?  Any idea what the CPU utilisation is - or is this=20
> handled in=20
> >separate DSPs in the voice network module itself?
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> On these particular Cisco boxes, the DSP does the all audio=20
> filtering,=20
> CODEC functions, echo cancellation, jitter buffering &=20
> adjustment, silence=20
> suppression (AKA voice activity detection, if you turned it=20
> on), and also=20
> prepends the RTP and IP headers. The router CPU just has to=20
> forward the=20
> packet that's generated by the DSP.
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> Router CPU utilization is therefore a function of the number=20
> of packets per=20
> second that the voice card generates and the size of each=20
> packet, plus=20
> signaling overhead. The packet size and rate depend on the=20
> CODEC itself=20
> (higher compression CODECs generate smaller packets), the=20
> sample size (20ms=20
> is the Cisco default, reducing or increasing it makes the=20
> packets smaller=20
> or larger and the packet rate higher or lower, respectively),=20
> and whether=20
> voice activity detection is on (roughly halves the packet rate).
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> If you leave the default settings in place (no VAD, 20ms=20
> sample size),=20
> you'll be OK with any of the CODECs.
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> Mathew.
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> >C.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:woody@pch.net]
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:43 PM
> >To: Charles Youse
> >Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> >Subject: Re: Voice over IP - performance
> >
> >
> >     > Does anyone have any real-world figures for VoIP=20
> performance on
> >     > various platforms?  In other words, how many calls=20
> can an otherwise
> >     > unused e.g., Cisco 2600 be expected to handle if it's=20
> the conversion
> >     > point from trunked voice calls to IP.  Some rough numbers for
> >     > different codecs on different hardware would be very=20
> useful.  Most
> >     > specifically I'm interested in Cisco router platforms=20
> but other
> >     > vendor stats would be appreciated as well.
> >
> >Actually I just ran the dollars-per-simultaneous-call numbers for
> >different models for some friends.  I'll append it. =20
> Basically, if you run
> >g711, you're limited by the number of PRI channels on the=20
> box.  If you run
> >g729a, you're limited by the number of DSPs you can fit in=20
> the box.  The
> >numbers I ran were assuming g729a.
> >
> >                                 -Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                        Cost
> >                                                        per
> >Package which can handle 23 simultaneous calls:        call
> >CISCO1760          10/100 Modular Router      $1,595
> >VWIC-1MFT-T1       1-Port RJ-48 Multiflex T1  $1,300
> >PVDM-256K-12       3-DSP Module (9 calls)     $1,200
> >PVDM-256K-20HD     5-DSP Module (15 calls)    $4,000
> >Total                                         $8,095   $352
> >
> >Different package which can handle 23 simultaneous calls:
> >CISCO2650          10/100 Modular Router      $3,295
> >NM-HDV-1T1-24E     Single-Port T1 Voice NM    $9,100
> >Total                                        $12,395   $539
> >
> >Package which can handle 45 simultaneous calls:
> >CISCO2650          10/100 Modular Router      $3,295
> >NM-HDV-2T1-48      Dual-Port T1 Voice NM      $9,800
> >Total                                        $13,095   $291
> >
> >Package which can handle 46 simultaneous calls:
> >CISCO2650          10/100 Modular Router      $3,295
> >NM-HDV-2T1-48      Dual-Port T1 Voice NM      $9,800
> >PVDM-256K-20HD     5-DSP Module (15 calls)    $4,000
> >Total                                        $17,095   $372
> >
> >Upgradeable package which can handle 46 simultaneous calls:
> >AS535-2T1-48-AC-V  AS5350-V/2T1              $18,900   $411
> >
> >Package which can handle 92 simultaneous calls:
> >AS535-4T1-96-AC-V  AS5350-V/4T1              $33,600   $366
> >
> >Package which can handle 184 simultaneous calls:
> >AS535-8T1-192-AC-V AS5350-V/8T1              $58,700   $319
> >
> >Upgradeable package which can handle 184 simultaneous calls:
> >AS54HPX-8T1-192AC  AS5400HPX/8T1             $65,500   $356
> >
> >Package which can handle 644 simultaneous calls:
> >AS54HPX-CT3-648AC  AS5400HPX/CT3            $170,300   $265
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