[55594] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Remote email access
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Crocker)
Tue Feb 4 01:08:55 2003
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:07:47 -0800
From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@brandenburg.com>
To: JC Dill <inet-list@vo.cnchost.com>
Cc: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>, Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>,
nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <3E3F52E5.7060108@vo.cnchost.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
JC,
Monday, February 3, 2003, 9:43:01 PM, you wrote:
JD> Dave Crocker wrote:
>> Recently I had protracted discussions with a number of Ops folks about
>> this issue and have chosen to drop that debate. I do not agree with
>> blocking port 25, either, but am far more concerned about having a
...
JD> Why does a single solution need to be "broadly supported"?
interoperability. when there are choices for solving the same problem, a
service can make one choice -- or, in this case, each of at least two
different services can make different choices -- and a software vendor
can make yet another another. then there is no interoperability.
that is exactly the problem that I have repeatedly experienced.
JD> IMHO, all
JD> that is needed is for each individual to find a solution that works for
JD> them, given their preferred email client, email host, and provider options.
hmmm. sounds like I have not described the problem clearly enough. So
here is the short form:
My email service provider permits me to post new email from anywhere on
the net, as long as I go through proper authentication. (The details of
how this is done do not matter; the method is reasonable and
sufficient.)
The provider happens to support this posting via port 25.
When I am traveling, my access often is through a provider that kindly
block outbound port 25, so I cannot post email.
Each provider has behaved as you suggest, and the result is that I
cannot post email.
JD> My present solution is to ssh into a server where I have an account,
Once again: I have no doubt that individuals are able to solve their
individual problems, individually, especially when they are technically
savvy.
That approach does not make for a viable, large-scale (as in
mass-market) industry.
d/
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Dave <mailto:dcrocker@brandenburg.com>
Brandenburg InternetWorking <http://www.brandenburg.com>
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