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Re: What could have been done differently?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Francis)
Wed Jan 29 23:23:20 2003

Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:19:28 -0800
From: Scott Francis <darkuncle@darkuncle.net>
To: "Rubens Kuhl Jr." <rkjnanog@ieg.com.br>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu, bdragon@gweep.net
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On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 11:13:19AM -0200, rkjnanog@ieg.com.br said:
[snip]
> But this worm required external access to an internal server (SQL Servers
> are not front-end ones); even with a bad or no patch management system, t=
his
> simply wouldn't happen on a properly configured network. Whoever got
> slammered, has more problems than just this worm. Even with no firewall or
> screening router,  use of RFC1918 private IP address on the SQL Server wo=
uld
> have prevented this worm attack

Only if the worm's randomly-chosen IP addresses were picked from the valid =
IP
space (i.e. not RFC1918 addresses), and although I am not sure, I doubt the
worm's author(s) was that conscientious.

Later, on Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 19:01:25 -0500 (EST), <bdragon@gweep.net>
replied:
> RFC1918 addresses would not have prevented this worm attack.
> RFC1918 !=3D security

All too true. However, using NAT/packet filtering can at least prevent
casual/automated network scans. Of course, if one was implementing proper
filtering, 1434/udp wouldn't be accepting connections from outside sources,
whether directly or through NAT/port forwarding. But then, this observation
has been made many times already ...
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