[55443] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Bell Labs or Microsoft security?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard A Steenbergen)
Wed Jan 29 11:23:26 2003
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:16:13 -0500
From: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>
To: Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>
Cc: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <B0BA0B18-3390-11D7-880C-003065BA697E@multicasttech.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 08:50:56AM -0500, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>
> A world before buffer overflow exploits ?
>
> The first (Fortran) programming course I ever took at MIT on the first
> day of lab they said
>
> 1.) If you set an array index to a sufficiently large negative number
> you would overwrite
> the operating system and crash the system (requiring a reboot from
> punched paper tape).
I said exploits, not ways to get outside your proper address space and
crash the OS. Any sufficiently powerful language presents an opportunity
to do bad things to an ill prepared OS, but the answer isn't to make the
language less powerful.
Perhaps if we banned C and assembly, and made everyone use perl, we'd be
safe. :)
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