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Re: Level3 routing issues?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Francis)
Mon Jan 27 05:33:54 2003

Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 02:32:24 -0800
From: Scott Francis <darkuncle@darkuncle.net>
To: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@DOMINO.ORG>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 06:47:49PM +0000, neil@DOMINO.ORG said:
>=20
> > Third point to the correlation above: The vast majority of Windows admi=
ns
> > are dingbat-morons, self-proclaimed experts. Had then not been
> > dingbat-morons, and applied the readily available and widely announced
> > patches (as zealously as unix folks patch thier stuff), this'd be all
> > moot, and we'd all have gotten a better nights sleep.
>=20
> I don't think this is fair statement either, Linux and Microsoft
> have the most issues because they have the largest market share - security
> by obscurity. It doesn't mean they have anymore issues than any other=20
> vendors, success brings problems and this is one of them.

That's partially, but not entirely, true. I would lay money against anybody
willing to bet, that the OpenBSD project has cleaner code, with fewer bugs,
than any other OS in common use today, commercial _or_ free. Yes, the OpenB=
SD
project (for example) has fewer announced vulnerabilities and exploits - but
it's not due to a lack of market share. It's due to clean code.

Conversely, MS software (both OS, server and client-side) leading the way in
vulnerabilities, patches and exploits is not due entirely to market share.
Redmond has a history of releasing crap code, with security consistently
taking a backseat to featuritis and time-to-market.

This is straying off-topic, and I tend to rant on this issue, so this will =
be
my last post on the subject.
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