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Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Fri Jan 17 00:02:58 2003

To: "Christopher L. Morrow" <chris@UU.NET>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 17 Jan 2003 04:29:07 GMT."
             <Pine.GSO.4.33.0301170427470.19744-100000@rampart.argfrp.us.uu.net> 
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:00:34 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 04:29:07 GMT, "Christopher L. Morrow" said:
> 
> > How quickly is quickly? Often times as has been my recent experience
> > (part of my motivation for posting this thread) the flood is over before
> > one can get a human being on the phone.
> 
> Once the call arrives and the problem is deduced it can be tracked in a
> matter of minutes, like 6-10 at the fastest...

Yes, but *YOUR* crew has a reputation for having a clue.  I'm willing to
bet that "once the call arrives" is a challenge for a lot of smaller ISPs
that don't even *HAVE* a security team, and "the problem is deduced" is
a challenge for the ones that have a team that don't have a clue.

We see a *LOT* of postings here "anybody know a clueful at XYZ, we've been
DDoS'ed for 36 hours"....
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				Valdis Kletnieks
				Computer Systems Senior Engineer
				Virginia Tech


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