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Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (hc)
Thu Jan 16 23:08:12 2003

Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:03:12 -0500
From: hc <haesu@towardex.com>
To: "Christopher L. Morrow" <chris@UU.NET>
Cc: Brad Laue <brad@brad-x.com>, nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



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>Because syn cookies are available on routing gear??? Either way syn
>cookies are not going to keep the device from sending a 'syn-ack' to the
>'originating host'.
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True.. At least it will have some stop in the amount of attacks.

It is quite unfortunate that it is impossible to control the 'ingress' 
point of attack flow. Whenever there is a DoS attack, the only way to 
drop it is to null route it (the method you have devised) over BGP 
peering, but that knocks the victim host off the 'net... :-(

-hc


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Because syn cookies are available on routing gear??? Either way syn
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True.. At least it will have some stop in the amount of attacks.<br>
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It is quite unfortunate that it is impossible to control the 'ingress' point
of attack flow. Whenever there is a DoS attack, the only way to drop it is
to null route it (the method you have devised) over BGP peering, but that
knocks the victim host off the 'net... :-(<br>
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-hc<br>
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