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Re: US-Asia Peering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Barrows)
Fri Jan 3 09:30:13 2003

Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:05:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Barrows <jsb@fireflynetworks.net>
To: Stephen Stuart <stuart@tech.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <200301030837.h038bbo31243@lo.tech.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



> - Transit providers who came to the exchange point for the purpose of
>   picking up transit sales.
>
> - If the exchange point operator is the one carrying the traffic, they
>   lose for competing with their customers in the previous bullet; they
>   will have taken the first steps on the path from being an exchange
>   point operator to being a network-plus-colo provider (where they'll
>   compete with the network-plus-colo providers just coming out of
>   bankruptcy with all their debt scraped off).

  i'm still amazed that nobody has brought up the fact that a couple
  of the larger colo/exchange operators that claimed they wouldn't
  compete with their IP customers are indeed selling IP transit--
  intentionally undercutting the prices of the providers that colo'd
  there to sell transit partly because the colo/exchange operator
  kept telling the world that they would never compete with their
  customers in the IP transit space.

  clearly, interconnecting their exchange points to create a richly-
  connected Internet 'core' is a natural progression if their
  customers don't complain too loudly.

  not that it's a bad long-term plan-- but I do agree with Stephen
  in that it'll be tough for them to survive against the debt-free
  big boys if they emerge as clear network-plus-colo competitors
  and lose the few remaining bits of their 'neutral' facade.

 - jsb



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