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Re: AOL & Cogent

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Basil Kruglov)
Mon Dec 30 09:35:16 2002

Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 08:34:44 -0600
From: Basil Kruglov <basil@cifnet.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Reply-To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20021230131445.GA26099@dipole.informationwave.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 08:14:45AM -0500, Omachonu Ogali wrote:
> > For my not-so-bright customers I simply want traceroutes to look good when
> > they run one from Level3-homed site. Obviously a ~5-7 hops to us looks
> > really disturbing, try to explain to one of them that there is no problem.
> 
> Then make a press release for your not so bright customers, and explain
> every single detail rather than asking a company to change their entire
> routing policy because you're too lazy to educate your customers on how
> traceroute shouldn't be used as a tool to gauge performance. And if you
> can't explain it to them, then you should step back and look at who you
> really have for customers. "Enough said."

Great. Thanks for the PR tip. I never intended them to change "their entire
routing policy" just for my laziness, if you insist ;) It's been going on
for 2 and 1/2+ weeks with no definitive date/solution/workaround on when
it's going to be fixed. Now I've made an attempt trying to show what could
be done; perhaps move some butts to actually get something done. Speaking of
my customers or perspective customers, I don't get to choose often who they
are. Maybe you do, I don't.

Happy New Year,
-Basil

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