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Re: Spam. Again.. -- and blocking net blocks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen J. Wilcox)
Tue Dec 10 17:38:26 2002

Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:37:48 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve@telecomplete.co.uk>
To: Stephen Sprunk <ssprunk@cisco.com>
Cc: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>, hostmaster <hostmaster@nso.org>,
	nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <041801c2a09b$b8d07740$ae876540@amer.cisco.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Stephen Sprunk wrote:

> 
> Barry Shein wrote:
> > The only solution to spam is to start charging for email (perhaps with
> > reasonable included minimums if that calms you down for some large set
> > of "you") and thus create an economic incentive for all parties
> > involved.
> >
> > Face it folks, the party is over, the free-for-all was a nice idea but
> > it simply did not work. See "The Tragedy of the Commons".
> 
> Sure, because charging for postal mail has certainly stopped the deplorable
> practice of junk mailing.</sarcasm>
> 
> As long as spamming is legal, people will do it, period.  You cannot solve
> administrative problems with technical solutions.  The key is for ISPs to
> form a political lobby (with the same power as the DMA) and push for
> reasonable laws to protect consumers.  Until then, we're all pissing in the
> wind.

This discussion is very familiar! 

... and that will stop for example the nigeria scams how? or the asian porn
sites how?

Steve


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