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Re: Spam. Again.. -- and blocking net blocks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barry Shein)
Tue Dec 10 17:15:15 2002

From: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:13:28 -0500
To: Mark Segal <MSegal@FUTUREWAY.CA>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <7D65E2ADB9ADD4119CC200508BB1E0BC01D3D010@fwexch01.corp.futureway.ca>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



Are you billing and presumably suing (if they don't pay) the owners of
the website et al for the damages they've caused your business by all
this?

If not you're just subsidizing their attempt to profit off of mayhem
at your expense.

The question of course is rhetorical.


On December 10, 2002 at 10:00 MSegal@FUTUREWAY.CA (Mark Segal) wrote:
 > 
 > Before the flame begins..
 > 
 > I'm not sure when this started.. 
 > 
 > Background:
 > We have a downstream ISP, who hosts a website of questionable material.
 > This customer (of our customer) used a third party to spam on their behalf..
 > Which is a violation of our AUP.  (In fact we null0 the /32 in question).
 > 
 > Problem:
 > For some reason, spews has decided to now block one of our /19.. Ie no mail
 > server in the /19 can send mail.
 > 
 > Questions:
 > 1) How do we smack some sense into spews?
 > 2) Does anyone else see a HUGE problem with listing a /19 because there is
 > one /32 of a spam advertised website?  When did this start happening?
 > 
 > Regards,
 > Mark
 > 
 > --
 > Mark Segal
 > Director, Data Services
 > Futureway Communications Inc.
 > Tel: (905)326-1570

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