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Re: FW: /8s and filtering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Schwartz)
Tue Dec 10 15:41:31 2002

From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
To: <hnarayan@cs.ucsd.edu>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:40:58 -0800
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.32.0212101124290.13597-100000@gradlab.ucsd.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:32:03 -0800 (PST), Harsha Narayan wrote:

>Now I am confused because I have got two sets of contradicting=
 answers.

=09Because there are two questions, one about provider independent=
 space and 
one about space allocated by an ISP to its customer.

>Some say that anyone can multihome, some say that you need to be=
 of a
>certain minimum size to multihome. May I know what is the right=
 answer?

=09Anyone can multihome. There is no size requirement (except=
 perhaps of your 
budget).

>I agree that allowing anyone to multihome would increase the=
 size of the
>routing table. So does this mean that someone has to be of a=
 certain size
>to multihome?

=09No, because multihoming does not require that anyone but your=
 direct 
providers see your route. Since you pay them, you aren't imposing=
 any costs 
on anyone else.

=09The people you don't pay can choose to accept your small route=
 or not. 
Either way, you can reach them and they can reach you. Their=
 route to you may
not be optimum, but that's their choice. If you want them to hear=
 your route,
you can pay them to do so. It will work either way.

=09To repeat:

=091) Small multihomers should get IP address space from their most=
 reliable 
provider. This is the one they trust the most and intend to=
 remain with the 
longest.

=092) Small multihomers must get the ISP that assigns them address=
 space to 
allocate them at least a /24 (with multihoming as the=
 justification if 
needed). The ISP must agree to allow them to advertise their=
 allocation 
through other providers and must agree to hear and announce the=
 block from 
the customer *and* *other* *ISPs*.

=093) The ISP that assigns you IPs must prefer the more specific=
 route from 
their peers if they don't hear it directly from the multihomer.

=094) Small multhomers must get their other provider(s) to agree to=
 hear their 
announcement and readvertise it.

=095) Multihoming should be done only by those reasonably competent=
 and 
experienced. You probably can't get enough help from a mailing=
 list and may 
wind up signing contracts or purchasing equipment that harms=
 you.

=09DS



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