[54042] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bdragon@gweep.net)
Mon Dec 9 16:18:59 2002
To: Michael.Dillon@radianz.com
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:17:49 -0500 (EST)
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <OF929242DE.80E9E3EE-ON80256C8A.00578EBF-80256C8A.00586083@radianz.com> from "Michael.Dillon@radianz.com" at Dec 09, 2002 04:05:18 PM
From: <bdragon@gweep.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> > I think we can all agree that whoever's responsibility it is, the
> > current system is broken. You can't actually count on people to read
> > this list.
>
> Absolutely right!
> And all of this discussion that you have sparked on the list will actually
> help solve the problem. Unfortunately it ain't gonna happen fast. That's
> why I would like to see some work done on a general solution to the
> problem because that will get us a lot more benefit from the effort
> expended.
As a network operator, I don't see any tye of real-time feed for
RIR allocations to be useful, esp. not via BGP.
> I wouldn't be surprised to see this picked up in the Cook Report and some
> of the trade press because of your postings. The more people become aware
> of how the system is broken, the sooner we can fix it.
People actually read that?
> > Maybe if IANA and ARIN and the other organizations that are
> > supposed to work together to make all this stuff work weren't so busy
> > trying to pass the buck, someone might have time to figure something
> > out...
>
> There are more than a few people in ARIN et al. and most of them really do
> care about finding solutions to these issues. But the Internet is no
> longer an old boys club which means that there has to be a certain amount
> of public discussion and process before decisions are made and action is
> taken. Sadly, this problem could have been predicted but there are too few
> people willing to think about what we are doing and do some forward
> planning. ARIN and other membership organizations are only as good as the
> members themselves. When the members of an organization are apathetic,
> then the organization doesn't do much more than the same old thing.
>
> -- Michael Dillon
Hi! What is the problem you are seeking to solve?
I thought the problem was that:
1) Folks like to filter IANA-RESERVED space
2) Apparently some entities out there haven't updated their filters
in aeons.
A simple solution:
1) IANA creates an IANA-RESERVED IRR object
2) Entities switch to using this for their filters, and the
updates happen automagically
(Didn't someone already suggest this many many messages ago?)
