[54032] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alec H. Peterson)
Mon Dec 9 11:18:52 2002
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:16:28 -0700
From: "Alec H. Peterson" <ahp@hilander.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1039424482@macleod.hilander.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
OK, clearly this discussion has mutated into a couple of discussions. I
was under the impression we were still talking about a published list of /8
delegations, since all of the prefix filters I've seen operate on that
level.
However, part of the discussion has mutated into how the RIRs should
provide insight into unallocated space inside of delegations they have
received from IANA.
There are several issues. There is the operational issue relating to
people who have received allocations inside of 69/8 and cannot get to
backbones who are filtering announcements from that block. I'd say it's
safe to assume that the backbones who are filtering 69/8 aren't reading
NANOG, so the fact that the operational discussion is happening here
probably isn't doing much good to help Todd's problem. As far as how to
fix that, somebody probably needs to find the right person at these ISPs
and use a clue-by-four appropriately.
Then there is the registry issue of how to provide relevant information
about which /8s belong to which RIRs. I respectfully suggest that people
periodically query http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space for
this information.
Finally, there is the issue of providing information relating to
unallocated blocks within each RIRs allocations. This discussion is far
more relevant to the registry specific mailing lists. I suggest those
interested in discussing that join the appropriate ARIN mailing list. The
discussion is happening on ppml@arin.net, though it is probably more
appropriate to the dbwg@arin.net mailing list.
Alec
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