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Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Abley)
Fri Dec 6 13:18:48 2002

Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:17:56 -0500
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
To: Michael.Dillon@radianz.com
From: Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org>
In-Reply-To: <OF3A46D65E.47399467-ON80256C87.005EA01F-80256C87.005F09DA@radianz.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



On Friday, Dec 6, 2002, at 12:18 Canada/Eastern, 
Michael.Dillon@radianz.com wrote:

>> ARIN don't guarantee routability of the blocks they allocate, and it's
>> difficult to see how they ever could.
>
> If you want to discuss what ARIN could or could not do, then please 
> join
> the ARIN ppml list.

I don't, but thank you for the advice.

>> Perhaps this is an issue of community education, or one of needing
>> better tools or methods for managing martian filters. Those issues are
>> arguably both technical and operational.
>
> The original poster doesn't have a problem with the community. He has a
> problem with network operators who are not part of the community and 
> that
> is a reality of today's Internet that cannot be dealt with by technical
> tools or operational methods.

By "community" I meant "people who operate devices connected to the 
Internet".

If there was definitively no way to educate this community, or to 
provide tools or methodologies which allowed members of it to 
cooperate, the Internet would not exist.


Joe


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