[53956] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James Smith)
Fri Dec 6 12:18:18 2002
From: James Smith <jsmith@PRESIDIO.com>
To: "'nanog@merit.edu'" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:14:51 -0500
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One would think that operators not updating filters to permit properly
allocated space IS an operational issue.
True, there are some non-operational facets to the issue, but that is not
sufficient to call this off-topic...
I can think of no better place than NANOG to say "Hey, some of you still
have not updated your filters, I still do not have the reachability I should
have.". His problem is indicative of future problems to come as we expand
the use of previously unallocated IPv4 space.
If the community cannot solve his problem, what reachability assurance do we
have on any future allocations out of spaces with a similar history?
James H. Smith II NNCSE NNCDS
Senior Systems Engineer
First Call Response Center
The Presidio Corporation
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael.Dillon@radianz.com [mailto:Michael.Dillon@radianz.com]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:57 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8...
> My question is as follows - We are losing customers because of this
> problem. It is costing us reputation and money. It is out of our
> control. If you were us, what would you do? We have already asked ARIN
> to reassign us to a "friendlier" CIDR, and they refuse.
This is no longer a technical operational issue so it is out of scope for
this mailing list.
But if you think that ARIN could do something to solve your problem then
you should raise the issue on the ARIN public policy mailing list. You can
find subscription information for that list here
http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/index.html
-- Michael Dillon
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>One would think that operators not updating filters =
to permit properly allocated space IS an operational issue.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>True, there are some non-operational facets to the =
issue, but that is not sufficient to call this off-topic...</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I can think of no better place than NANOG to say =
"Hey, some of you still have not updated your filters, I still do =
not have the reachability I should have.". His problem is =
indicative of future problems to come as we expand the use of =
previously unallocated IPv4 space. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If the community cannot solve his problem, what =
reachability assurance do we have on any future allocations out of =
spaces with a similar history?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>James H. Smith II NNCSE NNCDS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Senior Systems Engineer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>First Call Response Center</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>The Presidio Corporation</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Michael.Dillon@radianz.com [<A =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:57 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: nanog@merit.edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Operational Issues with =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> My question is as follows - We are losing =
customers because of this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> problem. It is costing us reputation and =
money. It is out of our</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> control. If you were us, what would you =
do? We have already asked ARIN</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> to reassign us to a "friendlier" =
CIDR, and they refuse.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This is no longer a technical operational issue so it =
is out of scope for </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>this mailing list.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>But if you think that ARIN could do something to =
solve your problem then </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>you should raise the issue on the ARIN public policy =
mailing list. You can </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>find subscription information for that list here <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/index.html" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/index.html</A></FONT=
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-- Michael Dillon</FONT>
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