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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jere Retzer)
Mon Nov 18 13:54:35 2002

Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:45:55 -0800
From: "Jere Retzer" <retzerj@ohsu.edu>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
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 David Diaz >>>

I just asked, and  "you can video clip images,...85megs is typical"


At 12:46 -0500 11/18/02, David Lesher wrote:
>Any idea how large these images are? I seem to recall that
>they are massive, given ultra-hi-rez data....
>
>(Are they attaching them to lookOut mail ;-?)
>
>And the radiologist may look for a few seconds at best so he
>is NOT going to want to wait....

Try asking any radiologist, cardiologist, oncologist how much quality is =
good enough and they will probably say "it depends." Digital mammography =
is potentially hundreds of megabytes =AF and you sure don't want to miss =
(or insert any extra) white spots! What we're seeing is higher and higher =
resolution combined with "longitudinal" (ie, over time) recording and in =
some cases additional 'dimensions' added using color and so on, and on top =
of that the ability to look at various depths, rotate, three spatial =
dimensions. So, for example a live echocardiogram today will use color as =
an indication of the "force" of the heart beat.  MRIs typically record =
data at three dimensions. As we approach micron-level resolution the file =
size grows into the petabytes. No, I did not make a mistake there. =
Currently, no one even stores these but they will want to in time.  Given =
our demands for instant feedback on our health these kinds of applications =
will eventually become more real time. One internationally recognized =
teaching hospital in the upper midwest advertises that all their x-rays =
are read by a radiologist within 30 minutes.

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