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Re: How to secure the Internet in three easy steps

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Vixie)
Fri Oct 25 17:14:28 2002

From: Paul Vixie <paul@vix.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Message from "Ryan Fox" <rfox@amerisuk.com> 
	of "Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:06:30 -0400."
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:12:02 +0000
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> Not only that, but unless _everyone_ implements 2 and/or 3, all the bad
> people that exploit the things these are meant to protect will migrate to
> the networks that lack these measures, mitigating the benefits.

not just the bad people.  all the people.  a network with 2 or 3 in place
is useless.  there is no way to make 2 or 3 happen.

> This seems to be a catch-22; no one will implement these for the good
> of the net because it costs money, and ignorant competitors that don't
> implement them will not share in that expense.  Have any such ideas
> been implemented in the modern internet?  How?

neither 2 or 3 would be for the good of the net.  1 would be.  the problem
with 1 is that the person who feels pain when ISP "A" doesn't do 1 is most
likely to be ISP "B".  therefore people confuse 1 with "internet altruism"
rather than the "rational selfishness" that it is.

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