[52795] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: sprint passes uu?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian)
Wed Oct 16 16:20:52 2002
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:20:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian <bri@sonicboom.org>
To: chuck goolsbee <chucklist@forest.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <p05111709b9d35120689e@[216.168.62.201]>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Their acctg issues are widely known, as well as their 99 pricing in 2001.
Hook up with a customer of theirs as a provider and let the provider duke
it out with em. A lot of folks like to dual home with Sprint and UUnet,
and that solution does get you a lot from a networking perspective.
Bri
On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, chuck goolsbee wrote:
>
> >transit prices have been in free fall, and worldcom has not been following
> >them downward. however, after the cleansing ritual of chapter 11, i think
> >they will be in a fine position to reset their per-megabit charges in ways
> >that make them a compelling transit provider. their network's been great.
> >--
> >Paul Vixie
>
>
> Yes, the network is, and always has been great. (well, except for
> that one little blip a couple of weeks ago...) In our seven year
> relationship we were always impressed with the the NOC staff and
> support group at UUnet.
>
> However auditing their invoices was always an exercise in
> frustration. Circuits that were long-ago cancelled re-appearing time
> and time again, blatant overcharges, completely incomprehensible
> account number changes. I used to think it was incompetence or
> confusion caused by growth and acquisitions (having some personal
> experience with the latter.) I guess it has been recently revealed as
> felonious behavior. I'd be a fool to go down that path again.
>
> I'm sorry to say but, I'll be officiating ice hockey games in hell
> before doing business with UUnet again.
>
> --
>
> Chuck Goolsbee V.P. Technical Operations
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