[5273] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: generators, etc....
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nathan Stratton)
Sun Oct 13 23:31:59 1996
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 23:24:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nathan Stratton <nathan@netrail.net>
To: "David J. Schmidt" <davids@on-ramp.ior.com>
cc: zachary@zachs.place.org, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <m0vCc8h-001K9SC@on-ramp.ior.com>
On Sun, 13 Oct 1996, David J. Schmidt wrote:
> There's another thing that hasn't been mentioned during this thread.
>
> Suppose BBN did ALL of the necessary upgrades to prevent this sort of
> outage. Not only at this site, but at all of their sites.
Great.
> Now they come to you, their customer and say "Well, we've made all of
> these improvements, but we now have to raise your rates by 50% to
> cover the costs."
No way, most of the things mentioned that need to be done before you put a
build a pop are free. Things like generators are not a lot of money, and a
nice little manual bypass switch is about 2K. Things can be done, I don't
think all of us should build POPs 100 feet under the ground, but there are
things we can do that can help.
> How many of you would simply change providers?
>
> An editorial in Unix Review (October issue I believe) talked about
> some outages that their site had suffered and mentioned other
> outages. Then the writer asked the question "Who's at fault?". His
> answer was that the consumer was at fault, because the consumer is
> unwilling to pay the rates necessary to pay for the level of service
> that they demand.
No way, this stuff is not that much. A generator cost less then a router,
and most of the things you can do to help are free.
> We all scream for fixes when these outages occur. How much are we
> (and our customers) willing to pay for them?
Look, I don't think people are asking for 100% uptime, but 99.999 is a
valid goal, and can be reached. I had to learn that hard way that a
generator at every pop was something was saved you money.
Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Tracking the future today!
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