[5270] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Creating exchanges
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barry Raveendran Greene)
Sun Oct 13 20:40:14 1996
From: Barry Raveendran Greene <barry@singnet.com.sg>
To: "'Stephen Stuart'" <stuart@pa.dec.com>,
"'Robert Mathews-ICICX'"
<mathews@gold.chem.hawaii.edu>
Cc: "'Ran Atkinson'" <rja@cisco.com>, "'nanog@merit.edu'" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 17:03:56 -0700
Hello All,
This topic of Guam as an IX has come up many times in the past. Frankly, =
if it made since, it would have already happened. The #1 factor for an =
IX location in the Asia Pacific is the business case. Geographic =
topology does play a factor, but 1/2 circuit lease line prices are the =
major determinant if people will come to an IX.=20
Guam's problem is that people have to pay the full circuit cost to get =
to Guam. These circuit costs are roughly 10X the cost of circuits in the =
US. In addition, pricing of the circuits are NOT distance sensitive. So =
for most of the region, the full circuit costs to Guam will be more =
expensive than a circuit to the US.
One engineer/colleague working for a large US Internet backbone did work =
through the business case of placing a major hub in Guam for his =
Internet, FR, and X.25 traffic. He had the advantage of knowing what =
'military' resources he can draw from (i.e. Typhoon hardened FM =
facilities) case he use to work for the Air Force in the region. The =
results was that the business case did not make since. Using Japan, HK, =
Singapore, and Australia as redundant hubs made better since. And that =
is what happened when they upgraded their backbone.
Robert Mathews-ICICX wrote:
>> From an infrastructure perspective, though, Japan looks hard to beat.
>> The pipes to Singapore/Jakarta/Australia, Guam/Hawaii/L.A.-ish, and
>> somewhere in Oregon (?) all meet there. Ignoring regulations, tariff
>> issues, etc., of course.
Japan and Singapore does look good because of the cable interconnects =
and the satellite foot prints. AIH/Abone (Japan - http://www.aih.net) =
and STIX/SIB (Singapore - http://www.stix.net) are two successes of =
international IXs - through both are commercial IXs - not neutral. Yet, =
each of them are working.
Personally, after working this issue for 3 1/2 years, international =
neutral IXs will not work in Asia Pacific. National IXs are fantastic =
and work wonders. Commercial IXs are there to compete with the big US =
backbones in the region.
Barry
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