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Re: How do you stop outgoing spam?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Crocker)
Wed Sep 18 03:05:56 2002

Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:01:58 -0700
To: Barney Wolff <barney@tp.databus.com>
From: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20020918053348.GA59998@tp.databus.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


At 01:33 AM 9/18/2002 -0400, Barney Wolff wrote:
> > 3.  SMTPAUTH does not require an alternate port, yet it is sufficient for
> > ensuring accountability.  Hence it is sufficient for dealing with the
> > reason that port 25 is blocked, without requiring that it be blocked.
>
>I don't understand this reasoning.  The ISP's justification for blocking
>25 except to its own servers is to avoid having its facilities used
>for abuse.  How would the local ISP enforce use of SMTPAUTH to connect
>to some remote ISP?

the claim is that outbound 25 is blocked to prevent spam.  however 
accessing a remote 25 with smtpauth ensures full accountability and, 
therefore, prevents spam.  blocking 25 disables use of this mechanism.

d/


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