[52144] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Recent NANOG postings
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (dgold)
Mon Sep 16 16:43:55 2002
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:41:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: dgold <dgold@FDFNet.Net>
To: Ralph Doncaster <ralph@istop.com>
Cc: Al Rowland <alan_r1@corp.earthlink.net>,
"nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0209161450540.7437-100000@ns.istop.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Yes, the spoofs may occasionally get out of hand. However, there may be a
reason why - namely the unfortunate increase in clueless or
uninformed postings.
Personally, I would much rather have a good laugh from reading such a
parody, then read about some crazy scheme or unresearched query.
I would strongly object to banning any entire domain from this mailing
list. Additionally, the practice of banning folks for "off-topic" posting
seems rather unevenly applied - spam is, by definition, off-topic to
NANOG, and yet long threads discuss it.
Perhaps we should all look to our own houses, before we criticize others.
- Daniel Golding
On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Ralph Doncaster wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Al Rowland wrote:
>
> > I'm sure it would be a trivial matter for merit to recover the full
> > headers of the original and forward to abuse@hushmail.com for action
> > against whomever is (quite poorly) impersonating Ms. Harris.
>
> Hushmail's domains are registered to some offshore company, though they
> get connectivity from NetNation in Calgary, AB. They don't seem to
> respond to abuse reports. NetNation at least responds, but won't give any
> contact info out for real people at HushMail.
>
> It would seem in this case the only action that is sure to work is to make
> a John Doe claim in a Canadian court, then file a subpoena against
> NetNation for Canadian business address of HushMail, and then subpoena
> HushMail's records.
>
> In Susan's case she's a short drive from Windsor, Ontario, and the court
> filings could be done in small claims court so the fees wouldn't exceed a
> couple hundred dollars.
>
> Since Hushmail offers free accounts the original offender can just sign up
> again under another anonymous ID and start the process all over. It would
> seem the offender has mocked not only myself and Susan, but the process
> for keeping unwanted posters off the list. At some point in the future it
> may become necessary to block whole domains from having posting
> privileges.
>
> -Ralph
>
>
