[51959] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: How do you stop outgoing spam?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Hollis)
Tue Sep 10 19:08:15 2002
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Hollis <goemon@anime.net>
To: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Cc: Vadim Antonov <avg@exigengroup.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <15742.29606.479262.871912@world.std.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Barry Shein wrote:
> 2. Some others take the attitude that if it's not illegal they're
> taking a chance (of lawsuit etc) if they shut someone down.
But they often dont shut abusers down even when the activity IS illegal
(eg flooding attacks, rooting boxes, scanning and dictionary attacks,
criminal trespass relay rape, etc.)
> Unless of course they have clear T&C's, but no matter how you write
> them some obnoxious, agressive, pond-scum can try to dispute that it
> applies to them. Been there, done that.
Or companies which dont enforce them (eg exodus) even when its criminal
trespass...
-Dan
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