[51911] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: How do you stop outgoing spam?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Sep 10 11:27:24 2002
To: alex@yuriev.com
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:45:19 EDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:26:44 -0400
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:45:19 EDT, alex@yuriev.com said:
> It is more trouble than its worth. SPAM is not a technical problem. It is a
> social problem. Using technical methods is not going to solve the problem.
There are two saying that come to mind:
"You can't solve social problems with technical solutions"
"There are very few inter-personal problems that can't be solved by the
suitable application of high explosives"
Most spam-fighting efforts on the technical side make the basic assumption
that spam has similar characteristics to a properly designed TCP stack - that
dropped/discarded spam-grams will trigger backoff at the sender. Unfortunately,
discarding a high percentage of the grams will trigger a retransmit multiple
times.
Spam is likely going to be a problem until we either hire some thug muscle from
<pick ethnic organized crime group>, or the government does it for us...
--
Valdis Kletnieks
Computer Systems Senior Engineer
Virginia Tech
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