[51893] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: How do you stop outgoing spam?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marshall Eubanks)
Mon Sep 9 18:59:00 2002
From: "Marshall Eubanks" <tme@multicasttech.com>
To: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>,
Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 17:53:48 -0400
In-Reply-To: <20020910003545.F21998-100000@sequoia.muada.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:41:09 +0200 (CEST)
Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Brad Knowles wrote:
>
> > > Brad> No, the traffic budget is on upstream traffic, not
> > > Brad> downstream. Stream content all you want, but don't try to
> > > Brad> generate too much upstream traffic or you get your bandwidth
> > > Brad> severely curtailed.
>
> [The whole thing about port 80 upstream bandwidth limitations getting in
> the way of streaming audio/video sounds like nonsense to me, since this
> usually doesn't go _to_ TCP port 80, even flowing _from_ TCP port 80 is
> something I haven't seen this century.]
>
> > > good consumer... don't try to talk. just watch the propaganda...
>
> > Yeah, well. For Internet cafe's, this is probably a fairly
> > reasonable assumption.
>
> Ok, suppose someone can touch type. The world record is something like 600
> key presses per minute, which is 10 41-byte TCP packets per second ~= 4
> kbps.
>
When I go to Internet cafe's (I like Global Gossip), I connect my Ti-book
to the local ethernet if at all possible (that's why I like Global Gossip) and
use high bit rates (i.e., file transfers) in both direction.
If I was limited to 4 kbps outbound, I would want my money back.
Just one customer viewpoint :)
Regards
Marshall Eubanks
