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Re: How do you stop outgoing spam?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Mon Sep 9 14:49:47 2002

To: Al Rowland <alan_r1@corp.earthlink.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 Sep 2002 10:37:35 PDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:47:17 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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On Mon, 09 Sep 2002 10:37:35 PDT, Al Rowland <alan_r1@corp.earthlink.net>  said:
> How many (more) protocols are we willing to cripple in the name of
> fighting spam?

Crippling protocols won't help, in the long run.  What will help is
the use of a baseball bat, properly applied. Unfortunately, although
it would probably be *cheaper* to hire <insert ethnic organized crime
group> to simply whack the cluelessmailers.org list of top 100
offenders, network providers fall into two distinct classes:

1) Companies with *some* sense of morals/conscience - they won't do
that sort of thing.

2) Companies that *would* stoop so low - they won't do it either
because that would be attacking their own revenue stream.

-- 
				Valdis Kletnieks
				Computer Systems Senior Engineer
				Virginia Tech


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