[51743] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Vulnerbilities of Interconnection
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Al Rowland)
Thu Sep 5 16:50:02 2002
From: "Al Rowland" <alan_r1@corp.earthlink.net>
To: <davei@algx.net>, <alex@yuriev.com>
Cc: <sgorman1@gmu.edu>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:49:29 -0700
In-Reply-To: <15735.48772.570132.3243@biohazard.demon.algx.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
To reinforce a dissenting opinion, And your explanation accounts for
suicide bombers how? I would think a smoking hole in the ground
containing a train or whatever, particularly if lose of life is
involved, would be much more appealing to the motivations of most
terrorists than a couple of computers with blue screens of death. I
would think 9-11 would provide a compelling example of current terrorist
practice.
Just my 2=A2
Best regards,
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Alan Rowland
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From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Dave Israel
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:29 PM
To: alex@yuriev.com
Cc: Dave Israel; sgorman1@gmu.edu; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Vulnerbilities of Interconnection
On 9/5/2002 at 16:01:02 -0400, alex@yuriev.com said:
> >=20
> > The thing is, the major cuts are not "attacks;" the backhoe=20
> > operators aren't gunning for our fiber (no matter how much it seems=20
> > like they are). If I wanted to disrupt traffic, intentionally and=20
> > maliciously, I would not derail a train into a fiber path. Doing so
> > would be very difficult, and the legal ramifications (murder,=20
> > destruction of property, etc, etc) are quite clear and severe. =20
> > However, if I ping-bomb you from a thousand "0wn3d" PCs on cable=20
> > modems, I never had to leave my parents' basement, I'm harder to=20
> > trace by normal police methods, and the question of which laws that=20
> > can be applied to me is less clear.
>=20
> This fails to address how this affects someone who has no problem with
> legal ramfications - i.e. a terrorist.
Even a terrorist will tend towards things that allow him to continue to
be a terrorist. If I can do X amount of damage, and get caught, or do X
amount of damage, and not get caught, then he'll do the second. Even a
terrorist that will die to kill will probably not die to inconvenience.
