[51740] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Vulnerbilities of Interconnection
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Israel)
Thu Sep 5 16:31:09 2002
From: Dave Israel <davei@algx.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:28:52 -0400
To: alex@yuriev.com
Cc: Dave Israel <davei@algx.net>, sgorman1@gmu.edu, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Re: Vulnerbilities of Interconnection (alex@yuriev.com)
Reply-To: davei@algx.net
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On 9/5/2002 at 16:01:02 -0400, alex@yuriev.com said:
> >
> > The thing is, the major cuts are not "attacks;" the backhoe operators
> > aren't gunning for our fiber (no matter how much it seems like they
> > are). If I wanted to disrupt traffic, intentionally and maliciously,
> > I would not derail a train into a fiber path. Doing so would be very
> > difficult, and the legal ramifications (murder, destruction of
> > property, etc, etc) are quite clear and severe. However, if I
> > ping-bomb you from a thousand "0wn3d" PCs on cable modems, I never had
> > to leave my parents' basement, I'm harder to trace by normal police
> > methods, and the question of which laws that can be applied to me is
> > less clear.
>
> This fails to address how this affects someone who has no problem with legal
> ramfications - i.e. a terrorist.
Even a terrorist will tend towards things that allow him to continue
to be a terrorist. If I can do X amount of damage, and get caught, or
do X amount of damage, and not get caught, then he'll do the second.
Even a terrorist that will die to kill will probably not die to
inconvenience.