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Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Segrave)
Wed Sep 4 05:35:46 2002

Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:35:20 +0200
From: Jim Segrave <jes@nl.demon.net>
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On Wed 04 Sep 2002 (09:49 +0200), Peter van Dijk wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 03:39:25AM -0400, Deepak Jain wrote:
> [snip]
> >  Boxes like Foundry, Extreme, Redback and many others all talk BGP 
> >  (at least to a first approximation) but is their lack of use in 
> >  the core/edge/CPE a lack of scale, stability, performance or just 
> >  interest?
> 
> One Dutch ISP that shall remain unnamed (and is not one I work for or
> have worked for) deployed Extreme on AMS-IX, with Extreme's BGP
> implementation.
> 
> It broke horribly. The Extreme BGP implementation, instead of sending
> their peers just their own prefixes, would send each peer *all*
> prefixes and then withdraw all but their own networks. However, doing
> this with tens of peers at the same time was too much for the Extreme
> itself, which died.

And another NL ISP - Demon - has used:

PC-based routers running gated. At low traffic volumes, they worked
   very well.

A supplier I don't think I'm at liberty to name. When they were good,
  they were very, very good. But when they were bad they were horrid.

Another supplier I don't wish to name. Mostly worked, but crashed if
  you made even the slighest configuration change.

We're now on Junipers and very happy.

-- 
Jim Segrave           jes@nl.demon.net

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