[51664] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Miquel van Smoorenburg)
Wed Sep 4 04:56:59 2002
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From: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <miquels@cistron.nl>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:55:54 +0000 (UTC)
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In article <cistron.20020904074946.GA84187@dataloss.nl>,
Peter van Dijk <peter@dataloss.nl> wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 03:39:25AM -0400, Deepak Jain wrote:
>[snip]
>> Boxes like Foundry, Extreme, Redback and many others all talk BGP
>> (at least to a first approximation) but is their lack of use in
>> the core/edge/CPE a lack of scale, stability, performance or just
>> interest?
>
>One Dutch ISP that shall remain unnamed (and is not one I work for or
>have worked for) deployed Extreme on AMS-IX, with Extreme's BGP
>implementation.
>
>It broke horribly. The Extreme BGP implementation, instead of sending
>their peers just their own prefixes, would send each peer *all*
>prefixes and then withdraw all but their own networks. However, doing
>this with tens of peers at the same time was too much for the Extreme
>itself, which died.
OTOH, I know of other ISPs also present on the AMS-IX that have
been using Extreme switches to connect to the AMS-IX and their
upstreams without any of those problems. Their network has been
very stable for over a year now, I think. It's even a fault-tolerant
setup with VRRP.
Cistron IP is using a Foundry switch right now as core router.
You can't get a BGP/OSPF router with lots of GigE and 10/100
interfaces for that price over at C or J ..
We had some problems with instability at first, but with recent
firmware everything runs just fine.
We have several full BGP upstreams and over a hundred of AMS-IX
peers (at GigE) and it works fine.
On of the nicest things is that the box boots in 15 seconds or
so and even with >100 BGP sessions coming up simultaneously
it's still fast - a Cisco would take minutes to get all BGP
sessions up, the Foundry does it in mere seconds.
Mike.
