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Re: Broadening the IPv6 discussion

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kevin Oberman)
Thu Aug 29 17:51:25 2002

To: "Petri Helenius" <pete@he.iki.fi>
Cc: "Kurtis Lindqvist" <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se>,
	"Mike Leber" <mleber@he.net>, "Irwin Lazar" <ILazar@burtongroup.com>,
	nanog@nanog.org
In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Aug 2002 00:32:38 +0300."
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:49:43 -0700
From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> From: "Petri Helenius" <pete@he.iki.fi>
> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 00:32:38 +0300
> Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu
> 
> Remember that multicast never happened either.
> How much it would take to "sponsor" free content over multicast to
> get it deployed. Donīt know if this would be approvable for government
> subsidies though.

But multicast HAS happened, but mostly in the enterprise. Interdomain
multicast is still unusual outside the R&E community. R&E nets like
Abilene, vBNS, and ESnet make heavy use of interdomain multicast,
especially for the Access Grid (http://www.accessgrid.org).

While the Access Grid tends to be mostly R&E, there are a number of
commercial providers supporting it and interdomain multicast.

I do not believe that the Access Grid has yet been used for pr0n, but
is is largely government subsidized.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634

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