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Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barry Shein)
Tue Aug 27 18:14:53 2002
From: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:14:22 -0400 (EDT)
To: Paul Vixie <vixie@vix.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <g3wuqcnx6e.fsf@as.vix.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Oh to some extent even the first time it's because they're slackers.
If instead of a brainless rush to sign up dial-up accts and check
credentials later they demanded a credit card or other verifiable
information (a phone number we can call you back at to activate) then
they'd burn up about 99.9% of the opportunities for spammers to get
throw-away, anonymous accounts.
I say this from absolutely first-hand experience.
On August 27, 2002 at 15:22 vixie@vix.com (Paul Vixie) wrote:
>
> vixie@vix.com (Paul Vixie) writes:
>
> > whenever you get spammed, it's because some isp somewhere is a slacker,
>
> what i meant to say was "whenever you're getting repeat spam from the same
> place, day after week after month, it's because some isp somewhere is a
> slacker." any given isp can be attacked and used to send outbound spam.
> but not every isp can be used in this way over and over by the same bunch
> of people. to the second group, i say: "please shift the cost of dealing
> with spam from your network, back inside your network."
> --
> Paul Vixie
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