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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Vixie)
Mon Aug 26 23:08:36 2002

To: nanog@merit.edu
From: Paul Vixie <vixie@vix.com>
Date: 27 Aug 2002 03:08:06 +0000
In-Reply-To: <20020826222859.A80168-100000@sequoia.muada.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> As a user, I pay my ISP to forward IP packets. If there happen to be TCP
> segments in those packets, that's something between me and the person the
> packet is addressed to, ...

...and, occasionally, your ISP's "abuse desk."  If this function of your ISP
costs less than 1 FTE per 10,000 dialups or 1,000 T1's or 100 T3's, then your
ISP is a slacker and probably a magnet for professional spammers as well.  If
they want to do some simple things to keep the "slacker" cutoff point at those
numbers rather than other numbers which are 90% smaller, you'll understand the
economics.  If one of those simple things is blocking outbound TCP/25, then I
hope you have alternatives including changing ISP's...

...but if you don't, then it's between you and your ISP, and best of luck.
-- 
Paul Vixie

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