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Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Schwartz)
Mon Aug 26 22:20:19 2002

From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
To: <jtk@aharp.is-net.depaul.edu>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 19:19:45 -0700
In-Reply-To: <20020826195814.26f3b48e.jtk@depaul.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



>Force forward by default, but allow anyone who wants to use TCP=
 port  
>25 the ability to do so.  They must sign an non-abuse agreement=
 or  
>whatever.  Then they get their host/link put into the TCP port=
 25 open  
>path.

=09Every ISP I have ever worked for and every ISP I have ever used=
 has 
eventually been convinced by me to come around to this policy. Do=
 whatever 
you want by default, but let trusted/clueful people opt out of it=
 and just 
get their IP datagrams from point A to point B.

=09I personally wouldn't sign an agreement with an ISP that allowed=
 them to 
molest my traffic in this manner unless it allowed me to opt out=
 of it. I've 
seen the headaches such assumptions about what everybody else=
 needs/wants to 
do can cause.

=09DS



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