[51328] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: mail delivery time on nanog-l (was Re: Die thread,
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brad Knowles)
Fri Aug 23 09:13:23 2002
In-Reply-To: <20020823125009.GF53265@overlord.e-gerbil.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:08:37 +0200
To: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>,
"Majdi S. Abbas" <msa@samurai.sfo.dead-dog.com>
From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Cc: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>, nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
At 8:50 AM -0400 2002/08/23, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
> I've seen it be better, and I've also seen it be a lot worse. But if
> speeding up the mail delivery time can stop the endless supply of useless
> replies to things which have already been addressed, I'd suggest it's
> worth it.
See
<http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/lisa98/full_papers/chalup/chalup_html/chalup.html>.
Not everyone agrees that instantaneous mail delivery will solve all
problems. It might help choke off replies coming back from people
who get slow mail delivery, but it's certainly not going to stop
people who are slow to *check* their mail, and respond before reading
all messages in the thread.
Moreover, it would be likely to encourage chat-like flaming.
> And that $300 minimum * 500 people = $150k * 3 = $750k/yr charged at
> meetings, that doesn't count?
How many of the people on this list actually go to the meetings?
How many actually pay the fees? How many people who go to the
meetings and pay the fees *don't* watch this list?
Maybe we should have separate lists, with one just for the people
who actually pay the fees? Then they can discuss things as much as
they want amongst themselves, and not have to worry about all these
freebie hangers-on?
Seriously, there is no charge to join the list, and if you want
to change that fact, I suspect you're going to drive away most of the
people. Some of the people you drive away might not be of particular
importance to you, but I can't imagine that you would want to drive
away everybody who doesn't pay the $300 fee.
--
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
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