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Re: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brad Knowles)
Thu Aug 22 18:49:54 2002

In-Reply-To: <92500828.1030020326@Elite>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:30:23 +0200
To: Ian Cooper <ian@the-coopers.org>, nanog@nanog.org
From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


At 12:45 PM +0100 2002/08/22, Ian Cooper wrote:

>  That's all well and good until said ISP's upstream servers go
>  slow/break/take an age to deliver a message you can deliver
>  from your own host immediately.  [It also doesn't scale
>  particularly well]

	I didn't see any scalability problems when I was running the mail 
servers at AOL.  At least, not on this side.

>  I thought I was buying *Internet* access anyway... shouldn't
>  that mean I have the right to talk which hosts I want on which
>  port I want?

	Just because you bought bargain-basement lowest-possible-cost 
Internet access doesn't mean that you bought the right to set up 
whatever servers you want and to have completely and totally 
unfettered access.

	If you want completely unrestricted access, then you should be 
prepared to pay extra for it.  If you don't like that policy, you can 
always go somewhere else.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
     -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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