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Re: Major Labels v. Backbones

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard A Steenbergen)
Sat Aug 17 22:44:26 2002

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:43:54 -0400
From: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>
To: "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa@samurai.sfo.dead-dog.com>
Cc: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.Nether.net>, NANOG@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20020818023345.GA4961@samurai.sfo.dead-dog.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Sat, Aug 17, 2002 at 07:33:45PM -0700, Majdi S. Abbas wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2002 at 05:04:05PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
> > >   --The service provider must not determine the recipients of the material.
> > 
> > 	One could argue (in theory) that a routing-table lookup
> > may satisfy this.
> 
> 	I'm not so sure.  Generally speaking, a destination network is a
> given ISP, not a given individual.  And it's highly impractical for an ISP
> to know the /individual/ a packet is destined for from the address.

I read "determine the recipients" as the process of putting the dst ip on
the packet when it is originated, not figuring out where the traffic is 
going for the purposes of delivery.

Obviously to carry something (as in to be a carrier) you have to know 
where it is going, but to not be the originator you need to have 
no role in determining where the message is destined.

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