[50937] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brad Knowles)
Thu Aug 15 19:31:34 2002
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<Pine.LNX.4.33.0208142034130.9102-100000@penguin.graphidelix.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 22:02:54 +0200
To: Scott Granados <scott@graphidelix.net>,
David Lesher <wb8foz@nrk.com>
From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
At 8:36 PM -0700 2002/08/14, Scott Granados wrote:
> Can the nsa for
> example listen in somehow to eering points or other such common areas
> and observe things that interest them?
Yup. Google for "ECHELON" and read the lengthy report that was
prepared for the government of the European Union.
> I know the answer in the voice
> network is yes but that's technically easier. On the ip network that
> would seem to be m uch more difficult.
Not for the NSA. Indeed, voice has to be converted to data in
order to go through the search algorithms, so it's actually a lot
easier to just search data that doesn't have to first be converted.
--
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