[50774] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: NANOG, its decline in s/n
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Granados)
Thu Aug 8 15:26:07 2002
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:25:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Granados <scott@graphidelix.net>
To: "John M. Brown" <john@chagresventures.com>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20020808010147.C52759@oso.greenflash.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
I'd tend to agree. B
Then again I'm just bitter, I expect it:).
On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, John M.
Brown wrote:
>
> Having been a participant of the NANOG list since 1995, twice
> a past host of the meetings, and someone that believes we should
> help and educate, I am most concerned over the trend that is
> showing itself here on the list.
>
> This is a list about knowledge, share, help, and operations.
>
> Some on this list are "Old Pro's" others are just "Old ....."
>
> I see new names, new faces, sometimes the same questions, sometimes
> slight variences of those questions.
>
> What then happens is people attack the sender (heck I've even been
> slightly guilty of this), banish them to newbie.dev.nul.
>
> Threads move quickly from the question to debates on random junk
> and thus become a waste to the community.
>
> When I first got on the Internet, 1984, it was full of cooperative
> and helpful people. 18 years later, not so much.
>
> We have real issues to deal with, DMCA, Clarke, The Implosion of ICANN
> (with means the ITU will run things me thinks, not good), and various
> other laws, acts and general clue.void from .void.gov.
>
> So instead of picking on each other, calling it "standard NANOG hazing"
> or whatever, lets help, be good in our technical honesty, or don't
> post. If someone doesn't listen to your answer, a BIGGER stick isn't
> going to help, take it private, or move along.
>
> We are all pro's here, right ?? We got a net to run, lets go do it.
>
> respectfully,
>
> john brown
> a person not speaking for anyone else
>
