[50648] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Deaggregating for emergency purposes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Senie)
Tue Aug 6 15:58:26 2002
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:56:32 -0400
To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Daniel Senie <dts@senie.com>
In-Reply-To: <001101c23d7a$33081f70$5201a8c0@server>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
At 02:50 PM 8/6/02, you wrote:
>Phil,
> You would think, after hearing about 30 people with clue+++
>talk, you may realize that this is a patently *bad* thing and should not
>be done.
Actually, what the many people have said sounded a lot more like "it won't
help very much."
> If your route's are being hijacked you can generally solve your
>problems in 2-5 phone calls...That's all it's *ever* taken me.
>1. Call their NOC.
typical response: you're not our customer, go away.
>2. If not helpful call their upstream.
typical response: you're not our customer, go away.
>3. Call a couple of Tier 1's who are transit for their upstream, and
>have them filter it.
response: who the hell are you?
Until you get back to the people you buy transit from, or peer with, and
try to get them to take on your cause. When you can't get your own
upstreams to understand what you're talking about, you post to NANOG, and
the problem gets solved in short order.
This tends to be the sad reality.
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Daniel Senie dts@senie.com
Amaranth Networks Inc. http://www.amaranth.com
