[49467] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Sprint peering policy
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Deepak Jain)
Mon Jul 1 19:32:18 2002
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From: "Deepak Jain" <deepak@ai.net>
To: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <miquels@cistron.nl>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:30:10 -0400
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WCOM (or anyone) has a certain amount of cost (people, management, etc) to
deal with a peer. If they are a respectable network, they notify their peers
of maintenance, and field their calls when sessions disappear. A large ISPs
fees generally tend to be higher than a Joe Six Pack ISP.
Regional routes for a Joe Six Pack ISP are not going to represent a
significant enough level of traffic (1-2,5,10mb/s?) for a large network to
waste management time on. Heck, DNS servers use more than 2mb/s of bandwidth
nowadays (for medium sized networks and above). A few megabits a second is
nothing.
Deepak Jain
AiNET
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
Miquel van Smoorenburg
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:42 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Sprint peering policy
In article
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l8KAAAAQAAAADJAemGHjDECnen8+YjBFaQEAAAAA@isprime.com>,
Phil Rosenthal <pr@isprime.com> wrote:
>Apples and oranges. Wcom isn't talking about dropping AT&T as a peer,
>they just don't want to peer with "Joe Six Pack ISP". Wcom would likely
>not peer with most ISPs, and I wouldn't expect them to. They gain
>absolutely nothing from it, and the small ISPs gain plenty. Wcom's
>costs only increase since they need "more ports".
Wcom could peer with "Joe Six Pack ISP" at an exchange if
- connection cost is very low (shared ethernet)
- they don't peer with Joe's upstream at the same location
- they only announce regional routes to Joe
- they use hot potato routing everywhere
in that case, the peering would just be local/regional, probably
all that Joe is after anyway
Mike.
